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Rajiv Malhotra – Fountain Of Gyaan For Desi Indians


Inferior desi mind is Rajiv Malhotra’s biggest target. Phoren Maal like Rajiv Malhotra have superior minds.

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Rajiv Malhotra has has to run down everything that modern India has achieved. Why this antipathy to India? | Twitter – RajivMessage- Tata’s Nano will worsen … 2013-04-28 14-25-45 | Click to go message.

Rajiv Malhotra, I have bad news for you!

Too Late

It is a little late in the day to run down Tata Nano.

The Indian consumer has decided that at nearly Rs.2.0 lakhs the Tata Nano is not the deal that Ratan Tata had promised at Rs.1.0 lakh.

Sorry! One less, juicy Indian target, for you to run down!

Surely He Knows

But then, Rajiv Malhotra is not running down the Tata Nano for the lack of consumer acceptance.

He is attacking three things: –

1. How can Someone in India decide that they will design a car for India – in India, by Indians, made in India.

Now this is something that few outside Europe, Japan, and the US have been able to do. Korea alone has done this, after Japan. China’s attempts at car making have been plagued by charges of copy-cat engineering – unlike the Nano.

How can backward Indians do this? They have to be wrong, according to Rajiv Malhotra.

2. India will increase oil dependence by Tata Nano, says Rajiv Malhora.

This is his weakest argument. Indians have not accepted the Tata Nano. Instead have decided to go for diesel cars – which return a mileage much better than petrol. Also tax rates on diesel are much lower than on petrol.

The Indian Government misrepresents the difference in tax-rates between diesel and petrol as subsidy on diesel.

3. Inferior desi mind is Rajiv Malhotra’s biggest target. Phoren Maal like Rajiv Malhotra have superior minds.

India must go electric, says Rajiv Malhotra. Make electric cars.

In a country which does not produce enough electricity to light up all households 24-hours a day, India must now add electric cars and increase demand for electricity.

Such superior thinking Phoren Maal has!

Assuming that India can increase electricity production, what fuel will it use for electricity production? Coal, which it will have to import? Same dependence story! Domestic coal which has a high ash content? Washed domestic coal, which will make electricity more expensive than it is? Produce electricity using imported natural-gas that will increase import dependence further?

Maybe India should have lower the cost of public transport – and increase public transport? But that is such a unglamorous idea? Will it get him more twitter followers? Will adoring young men and women throng to hear him about public transport? I guess not!

Indians Love China Stories

But if he talks of how China is making great progress in electric cars, he is likely to get more twitter followers? More thronging audiences.

Never mind the fact, that facts go against Rajiv Malhotra’s brilliant ideas for us desi Indians.

One – China is the world’s largest car market. And electric cars comprise less than 0.1% of its car population. Actually, it is 0.06%. This is the great leap-frog, Malhotra-ma-an?

By the way, the biggest story on electric cars in not the car but the battery. Current Lithium batteries are too expensive. Probably aluminum-air batteries will make electric cars feasible. And where is China in all this? Nowhere.

Two – In August 2010, global media was agog with a traffic jam in China that was 10 days long.

Three– China’s electricity production using coal, is making air unbreathable in all major Chinese cities. China is trying to increase solar energy. But sadly!

3 weeks before this great tweet-gyaan from Rajiv Malhotra came our way, China’s largest solar-panel producer, Suntech declared bankruptcy.

Belly up!

Just like Rajiv Malhotra’s gyaan.



  1. desi
    April 28, 2013 at 7:34 pm

    I suggest you to read about who is Rajiv Malhotra and his work plus the context in which in talks rather than picking his twits and arguing against it. Many have suggested you the same thing on twitter. I hope you will considered this suggestion from your loyal reader like me. Civilizations, Hinduism/Dharma is his forte not economics. .

  2. April 28, 2013 at 7:40 pm
    I agree with you.

    He knows ratshit about economics – especially Indian economics. Why is he wasting our time?

    He has done good work in the US on the school curriculum there. Why does he not stick to that. I mean will you respect Sania Mirza if she starts trying teach the Indian World Cup winning cricket team how to play swing bowling in English conditions?

    Frankly, I am tired of all these invaders (Islamic, Christian and now Brown American) trying to save us Indians.

    We have done well without you. But regardless of how we do, stay off our turf!

    In fact, I have quoted him many times on his work in his home-country – USA. Wonder why he has so little respect for us?

  3. GK
    April 29, 2013 at 1:01 am

    Aunraag,
    I am a great fan of your blog and feel it is a very essential de-colonizing therapy that needs to be prescribed to all Indians. But I think in this blog you have misunderstood Rajiv’s intention. After all, it is twitter and he can have is say about economics. He is really not putting down ‘India/Indian caliber’. You will know this if you refer to his works “Being Different” etc. I feel you and Rajiv both have common objectives and for the sake of Sanatana Dharma you must not make such divisive comments. There are brown sellouts within the borders of India that have betrayed/are betraying/ready to betray us in the future. So please don’t judge people’s integrity by their passports. The whole narrative of culture/civilization is controlled by the West and Indians either fall prey to the propaganda or cannot reconcile their traditional ethos with their modern lifestyle. Both of your works are helping in understanding our past better. Your blogs are a great way to reach out to today’s short attention span audience, but you must also consider publishing a book busting the myths of western civilizational virtues.

  4. April 29, 2013 at 3:23 am

    I am a great fan of your blog and feel it is a very essential de-colonizing therapy that needs to be prescribed to all Indians.

    Thanks for your kind words.

    As far as looking at modern India is concerned, not just Indians, but a lot of Brown Americans need decolonizing. Why are excluding your ilk from this therapy.

    Rajiv Malhotra need a a lot of decolonizing.

    But I think in this blog you have misunderstood Rajiv’s intention. After all, it is twitter and he can have is say about economics. He is really not putting down ‘India/Indian caliber’.

    Could it be that I have understood his intentions rather well?

    Why do all of you Brown Americans stick for each other?

    Why do we desis misunderstand you all, all the time? Is it that we have begun to understand you rather well.

    Maybe it is time, you see yourself in the light of day – and be careful about what you guys say about us.

    Let me see you give this advice to Rajiv Malhotra.

    If its twitter, and if Rajiv Malhotra is even half as ‘well-intentioned’ as you think he is, he wont be posting those silly messages – and then promoting his messages.

    There are brown sellouts within the borders of India that have betrayed/are betraying/ready to betray us in the future.

    Trust us, we know about them.

    We are running a country of 120 crore people. We have pulled up by the bootstraps from a ship-to-mouth economy to a third largest economy of the world. We live with two nuclear neighbours – which is more than what you can say for anyone else. We have fought at least 5 wars – wars we could not afford.

    Give us some credit.

    We know how to deal to with our sellouts.

    Dont preach to us as though we are ignoramuses. Could it be by ‘advising’ me, and not Rajiv Mahotra, you are making the same mistake as Rajiv Malhotra.

    So please don’t judge people’s integrity by their passports.

    Are you sure of what you are saying?

    The modern world judges you pretty much by your passport. And it should, too.

    Long time ago, people sold us a lemon that it makes no difference if you prayed to a different god. Turned out that it was just not a different god – but a whole new way of looting and enslaving.

    Long time ago, we got sold some lemons, when people said that color of your skin does not matter. People are the same inside. Turned out the people inside were demons outside.

    Now, we are being sold a lemon that these ill-intentioned carpers are actually are friends. You want me to believe this. Tell Rajiv Malhotra to stand respectfully and talk to Indians and not talk down to us.

    Let me see his intentions after you tell him that.

    Your blogs are a great way to reach out to today’s short attention span audience, but you must also consider publishing a book busting the myths of western civilizational virtues.

    Once again thank you for letting me know that I did make a difference – small though it is.

  5. GK
    April 29, 2013 at 4:24 am

    Anuraag,
    By Indians, I meant all people from Indian subcontinent. I am not an american citizen, I am just here for work 😉. My view is just that there are very few people who are even aware about the dharmic culture/Bharat tantra and its relative merits with respect to the West. So we must not engage in friendly fire😉. I think you can criticize Rajiv’s points without alienating people who have not heard/ thought alternatives to Western ideals. My request is just to debate without turning this into Indians living in India Vs NRI issue. Because we may find a range of economic views even within India. I feel the cause of Dharma can use help from all directions.
    We as children are brain washed by the Macaulay’s education system. We don’t have any mainstream forum to present alternative views to the Western model. So all aspirations for development are about imitating the West in the short-term without concern about the long-term. All our policies are directed by people with colonized minds. Even if people don’t like Western models, which I suspect to be a significant portion of Indians, they are not aware of alternative models.

  6. April 29, 2013 at 5:11 am

    By Indians, I meant all people from Indian subcontinent.

    Careful, when you say that.

    Are you including Pakistanis. They would rather call themselves as South Asians – but not from the Indian sub-continent.

    I am not an american citizen, I am just here for work 😉.

    GK – I have the highest respect for all those Indians who have proved their mettle in India – and now do the same all over World.

    Take a Lakshmi Mittal. He has an Indian passport, he is Indian.

    But to all those who are YummRikan but try and prove they are more Indian than Indians, I have a suggestion and some advice.

    Take a walk.

    On second thoughts, take a long walk.

    Actually, take a very long walk.

    My view is just that there are very few people who are even aware about the dharmic culture/Bharat tantra and its relative merits with respect to the West. So we must not engage in friendly fire😉.

    Let us start by telling that to Rajiv Malhotra.

    Because fire will get back fire – and maybe hellfire.

    This is not friendly fire – but enemy fire, masquerading as friendly forces.

    debate without turning this into Indians living in India Vs NRI issue.

    I suggest that you rethink this.

    I have been on this behavioural pattern for more than 6 years now. I say this, after seeing 6000 comments, writing 1200 posts.

    Remember Shukracharya, the guru of the Asuras was never a ‘friend’. He was always the ‘guru’ of the Asuras. There are many who have crossed over to the other side. The earlier we see them,the better.

    I feel the cause of Dharma can use help from all directions.

    After the Partition of Bengal, in a different context, Tagore gave us strength to walk alone – ekla chalo.

    Dont worry about Dharma. It needs no carpers like Rajiv Malhotra. He needs Dharma in the capital of Adharma.

    You think that carpers like these Brown American are on or side?

    Our battles, we fight.

    We may lose a battle – but the war we will win.

    Because we may find a range of economic views even within India. We as children are brain washed by the Macaulay’s education system. We don’t have any mainstream forum to present alternative views to the Western model. So all aspirations for development are about imitating the West in the short-term without concern about the long-term. All our policies are directed by people with colonized minds. Even if people don’t like Western models, which I suspect to be a significant portion of Indians, they are not aware of alternative models.

    Difference of opinion is good.

    Remember we are the Argumentative Indians. Better we argue today – and be clear today.

    Tomorrow may be late. Too late.

  7. Vishaya
    April 30, 2013 at 3:19 am

    Funny post. You can comment on every country in the world, but Rajiv Malhotra cannot write about India. I am liking your blog. Looking forward such random edicts.

  8. April 30, 2013 at 5:50 am

    Anurag,

    I had countered Rajeev Malhotra many times on various issues.. we need not always agree with him on everything..

    This particular obsession with China could have been avoided.. What Rajeev might have intended is to highlight the technological gaps that india have with China.. and he may be true to some extent that its too late to catch with technology in electric cars.. but technology need not always be linear.. India can come with a new technology catered to our own requirements.. all that is required is de-regulation of education from government clutches, and to free the children from being a prisoner of macaulay schools..

    Regarding dharma and NRI’s, i agree with your view, that there cannot be any dharma practiced in western countries, with current political setup.. most NRIs are high tech employees, working with some sort of American / Indian corporates, whose very business model is Asuric .. Probably, hotels/motels run by patels in america can be an exception to this asuric model..

    I have serious questions on the very perspective of Dharma.. is dharma distilled down to Just “Good Behaviour”? or is dharma confined to just philosophies? Or is dharma confined just to worshipping? Or is dharma confined to just mutual acceptance of other faiths?

    What is Dharma? This question can never be answered, in today’s context..

    Today’s India is enslaved by Colonial Institutions run by Colonised stooges.. and all these are asuric models.. As such, is there any difference b/w an NRI working for Wallstreet, or a Desi working for Reliance? Both are adharmic.. right? and both countries political system is also asuric..

    Where do we find dharma within the Desis?

    So it would be ridiculous even for desi Metro (or Urban) indians to speak of dharma.. the system they live in, and the society they are part of in metros are essentially same as western one..

    It is within this Asuric system, are the clashes of religions taking place.. while every one is effectively atomised, the NRIs and Desi Urban Hindus, could not withstand the onslaught (argument, theological, economic, philosophical) of Organised religions.. As man cannot live isolated, he always wants to associate with some organisation for social security..

    As such, the NRIs could easily end up being in the camp of the abrahamic faiths, and they would finally end up as another enemy for our own Dharma.

    I see the NRIs, Desi Urban Hindus as some one who are in the middle between Asuric and DHarmic models.. Rajeev Malhotra’s book could atleast restrain these NRI’s from falling in to western universalism.. His book may not be perfect or accurate enough to represent bharathiya dharma.. But it effectively checkmates the Abrahamic onslaught, by pitting NRIs against them, both intellectually and philosophically..

  9. April 30, 2013 at 7:00 am

    Topic Bull /Sam Malone /aka Anyone Else –

    1. Big difference in learning from experience of other countries. Exposing propaganda by other countries

    and

    2. Posing as a India’s savior! I have no problem if Rajiv Malhotra or Atanu Dey tried to pose as saviours of America – their home country.

    Different matter, that they would probably be hooted out with a roars of derision and laughter.

    Useless in their own countries, they come to India and sell us outdated models.

    No one with any intelligence sells outdated models in India any more. But then the intelligence of people like Rajiv Malhotra or an Atanu Dey itself are in question …

    Wonder about one thing …

    Do these guys (Rajiv Malhotra or an Atanu Dey) keep chamchas like you to reply to their criticism! I have seen your chamcha types earlier here.

  10. April 30, 2013 at 7:24 am
  11. April 30, 2013 at 5:18 pm

    Do these guys (Rajiv Malhotra or an Atanu Dey) keep chamchas like you to reply to their criticism! I have seen your chamcha types earlier here.

    What made you think like this? i am surprised by your comment, even after reading my blogs & tweets..

    Btw, you had not answered my question..

    What is the difference b/w Urban (Metro) Desi Indians, and the NRIs? Both are essentially uprooted, and live within an alien Asuric System?

    And how far is Urban Desi Hindus dharmic and in what way?

    Forget Rajeev (or that guy Atanu whom i dont know) for now pls..

  12. April 30, 2013 at 5:22 pm

    and another important question.. you had written about bharat tantra.. please explain whether it exists in the urban metro india?

    Some months back, in a debate on walmart, the swadheshi Jagram Manch people opposed walmart but supported Reliance, and other desi corporate retail outlets.. Likewise, do you believe, that just by being within india, one can become dharmic?

  13. April 30, 2013 at 6:46 pm

    @Senthil –

    This wordpress theme does not support threaded comment. But you will note that my chamcha query was aimed at Topic Bull /Sam Malone, who are here to defend Brown Americans.

    It had nothing to do with you.

    What is the difference b/w Urban (Metro) Desi Indians, and the NRIs?

    Indians from time immemorial have travelled for trade and business. For acquiring and distributing knowledge. So any Indian travelling abroad is also an Indian. NRI is an Income Tax term for taxation purposes.

    But some Brown Americans, who trace their ancestry to Bharat, are no Indians at all. They have become American citizens, traded in their nationality, sing the American national anthem – and would fight for America, tomorrow if there is a war with the USA.

    In peace-time, you can see them using their Brown color, to fool us. To spread American ideas, propaganda, agenda, promoting American objectives, under the camouflage of their Brown skin.

    Will we trust foreigners because they are Brown in color? I won’t.

    In the past we have made that mistake twice. Once with the Desert Bloc Turushka rulers who used Islam to fool and loot us. Then came the British. Same st have got fooled twice.

    Third time, if we get fooled by Brown foreigners, then India deserves to be enslaved.

    Both are essentially uprooted, and live within an alien Asuric System?And how far is Urban Desi Hindus dharmic and in what way?

    Krishna pushed Arjuna to kill Karna, who was unarmed for a brief time. Raghu Ramachandra killed Bali – to help his ally, Sugriva, for his future war with Ravanasura.

    ***

    Throughout our Vedas and Puranas, you will see that the Asuras would win special powers and weapons, mostly from Brahma and Shiva – and it is Vishnu who will come to kill these Asuras.

    If you untangle the symbolism and imagery, what it means that Asuras got technology and weapons, due to the concentration of wealth in Asuric societies – Creative God-Brahma (technology) and the Recreation God-Shiva (war).

    To these Asuric cycles, Bharattantra has responded with temporary centralization of power. Under the Mauryas and Guptas.

    Mauryas were most probably the Ammurus who had fought against the Asuras (Egyptians and the Assyrians) in alliance with the Hittites and Mittanis. Between 1300 BC to 300 BC for about 1000 years the Asuras from Babylon (Assyrians) and Iran (Achaemenid) were powerful aggressors – and my own reading is that the Mauryas were made the all-powerful kings to counter these Asuric kings.

    After that, some 500 years later, came the waves of Shakyas, Turushkas, Hunas, who were confronted by the Guptas. Many of these Shakyas, Turushkas, Hunas, became followers of Bharattantra. One of the famous ancestors who was a big promoter and interpretr of Bharattantra was Gautama Buddha.

    You may see issues with the above hypothesis, because of dates. Like I have earlier pointed out the dates by colonial-Western historians have been ‘fitted’ for their own reasons.

    ***

    I think we are going through the last of the Asuric cycles.

    My own reading is that Germany will lead the future Asuric Bloc – because they have perfected the model of using technology, governance, centralization, without imperial conquest and slavery. Germany has been destroyed twice by the Anglo-Saxon Bloc. Yet, today Germany is back at the centre of Europe – and the Anglo-Saxon Bloc is at the cliff-edge, hanging by their finger nails. After their 500 years of slavery, piracy, genocide, loot, colonialis, war, etc. Soon …

    In Indian historiography terms, compare Germany to Vamana-Bali encounter.

    ***

    India has always had a big urban population. Recall the more than 2000 Saraswati Basin-Indus Valley cities. Kashi-Benares-Allahabad urban complex is the world’s oldest living city – which is atleast 5000 years old.

    The shift from Saraswati Basin-Indus Valley cities to Indo-Gangetic plains is now 4000-yr old. Similarly, in the South the shift from the vengeful Pattini who was deity of a vengeful kingly justice and mercy to the dharmic decentralized panchayat system is probably 3000 yr old – if the dating of Silappadhikaram is correct.

    ***

    So, this urban mess will continue for some time. Another 50-100 years, if there is no historical discontinuity. We may see an increase in agricultural population as Western agriculture collapses due to reduction in subsidies.

    But for being able to confront the asuric powers, we will need to build mega aircraft carriers, fighter jets, mega steel plants that will feed this behemoth, electric plants that will pollute – but we have zero choice.

    Like I was reading someone who quoted Trotsky – You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you.

    So, this urban-concentration-mega industrial production can be harnessed for protection of Bharat – without becoming Asuric.

    Yes, we will need a Reliance that will stare back a Walmart.

    ***

    Remember that in Bharattantra kings were allowed to build treasuries till they conquered their enemies. The conquest of enemies and rivals was marked by the Rajsuya yagna and Ashwamedha yagna.

    After defeating all their enemies, the kings were stripped of their wealth during the Rajsuya and Ashwamedha yagna.

    ***

    Remember Indians are not about One Book, One King, One God, One Idea, One Country, One Language, etc. So, we have to remember that winning against the asuras is paramount.

    We need to do whatever is needed.

  14. Ranjan Dash
    April 30, 2013 at 7:30 pm

    I think Anuraag Sanghi is not a science or economics student, as i can point out this:
    1. How can Someone in India : When I was in Dubai. I saw BOSCH designed and manufacturing components of engine in China well this is what they are proud to mention in their companies ad sheets….
    From Bajaj to TVS all are importing parts from china…. Indian stds for car safety doesn’t meet EU and American std, same because of copy rights. Did TATA put its logo on Jaguar and Land Rover? Proud to be Indian.
    2. India will increase oil : Did you ask any old diesel car owner about maintenance and Diesel is bad fuel. Its expensive than petrol(check in Saudi Arabia as an example) but Indian govt. is giving heavy discount(subsidy). Where will get money for this discount(misrepresents)?
    3.Inferior desi mind(sorry, I will say inferiority complex ) -Phoren Maal like Rajiv Malhotra have superior mind(how he became that, his gayan is more than yours), may be or may be not , but as he is scientist by training he and I can see what is latest and future of inventions that will define the nation and how nation can be modern but with its culture and tradition distinct from. I was KAUST university(State of the ART labs) in KSA and I met with people(Chinese, Indian and western) doing research on various renewable energy. Just few days back in UAE students made a car that can go 5000KM/P breaking old record of Eu’s. Where India stands now ? I see some good changes because of our private universities.
    What about thorium reactors research ? what about renewable hydrogen fuel, Did someone speaks about “Fusion ” ? Chinese are researching all these field with collaboration with other foreign universities actively around the globe. Where is India ?
    Now please don’t use We(desi) Vs. Them theory as you have done here, its really old fashion(Khadus leftist professor type). Rajiv Malhotra intention is very much clear that what we are doing and will be achieving is quit not enough in this competitive world. We need to do more planning and work for future.

  15. Vishaya
    May 1, 2013 at 6:08 am

    1. Big difference in learning from experience of other countries. Exposing propaganda by other countries
    and
    2. Posing as a India’s savior! I have no problem if Rajiv Malhotra or Atanu Dey tried to pose as saviours of America – their home country.

    Laughable statement. Basically you want to comment on everything in the world and you want to deny others that privilege. So this is the best you could come up with? Learning from the experience of other countries? Why do you need to learn from countries that are just few hundred years old when you have 5000 years of mistakes to learn from?

    Who are you to expose propaganda by other countries? Do you hold the passport of those countries since that seems to be your benchmark.

    Also I liked the comment about Rajiv Malhotra knowing ratshit about economics. It looks like he made tons of money running his own business. Now he does not have to work for anyone, whereas you my dear friend, are still slaving for someone. And you say, he has no idea of economics. What other gems you got?

  16. May 1, 2013 at 7:39 am

    Who are you to expose propaganda by other countries? Do you hold the passport of those countries since that seems to be your benchmark.

    And the ant asks the cow elephant, ‘Dard ho raha hai kya’?

  17. May 1, 2013 at 12:39 pm

    @anurag,

    /** Remember Indians are not about One Book, One King, One God, One Idea, One Country, One Language, etc. So, we have to remember that winning against the asuras is paramount.

    We need to do whatever is needed.
    **/

    But you see.. the present asuric system was NOT created by us.. NOR does this system, cater to the ultimate purpose you had explained.. ie, this Asuric Urban Metros are NOT designed by us to counter western asuric systems.. rather, these were built by Colonisers, for their own exploitation, and continued to be implemented by the Colonial Stooges, for the same western corporates..

    So i have difficulty in accepting your logic.. for i dont see any indic purpose in these western asuric metros.. Just look at every institutions of these metros? They exploit Traditional Bharat, and serve Western Corporates.. and more importantly, they are controlled by western corporates and manipulated for their own purpose..

    Reliance, and Tata are just mirror images of these western corporates.. I dont support or defend them in any way..

  18. Vishaya
    May 1, 2013 at 1:39 pm

    And the ant asks the cow elephant, ‘Dard ho raha hai kya’?

    You would know because it looks like that’s what happens to you when Atanu Dey or Rajiv Malhotra tells things which you in your wildest dream could not imagine.

  19. Vishaya
    May 2, 2013 at 1:26 pm

    Yet another awesome article by Atanu (which I would not have discovered without your blog). Now you can churn out your response (Passport color, Yumrikka, Brown Color, etc)

  20. May 2, 2013 at 3:17 pm
    Ah yes! ‘New’ post …

    Must be the usual ‘I love India’ therefore … kind of drivel.

    Me? Wrong?

    Let me guess … Tough-love kind of hoax.!

    No?

    Gotta be … USA is better becoz …

    Not this too … Now I’m stumped …

    Should be … it must be …. Indian leadership is corrupt …?

    None of these …?

    I don’t believe ya …

    Ya s***ing me …

    Atanu hasn’t a fifth idea.

    PS – Try linking a post at Atanu Dey’s blog. Especially, if it not to his liking. But is there a better answer than shaking an empty vessel which makes so much noise …

  21. Rahul
    May 3, 2013 at 6:26 am

    While Rajeev malhotra and atanu can be dismissive about indians and might make recommendations from a high horse, they need to be looked into and their positions must be understood, how they are reasoning and what are their assumptions. Brown Americans as you call them have risen in the system of the westerners and are in a position to understand and transmit their approach to us. Whether we like it or not the approach has been an overwhelming success in dominating the world though they may not have continued holding on to their conquests.
    My understanding is that the two approaches to life the “greek”(for the lack of a better term) and the hindu ways treat truth in different ways. Hindu approach is to devise processes and keep fixng them or refining them to converge (speedily or slowly) to an optimum. Notice that almost no assumptions are made and complete trust is placed only on pratyaksha and then only inference. This is very good for large systems like agriculture, society, politics and in parts even mathematics where good assumptions are very hard or impossible to find.
    OTOH for limited and easier systems like science(where each subject is highly specialized and narrow) or inventions and to some extent technology, the “greek” method is far more effective in ruling out impossibilities and arrive at the correct solution; as seen in the number of inventions and discoveries made by westerners. They believe in axioms(shabda and then anumana) which is the exact opposite of hindu systems where shabda can even be modified.

    Now the westerners have forced democracy down the throats on everyone, with the tacit threat of violence if someone does not fall in line. We might not like it, but to survive we have to work within this corrupt system, where opinions and identities are moulded through lies, propaganda supported by the “greek” method of reasoning. It takes quite a bit of effort to smoke out the subtle false assumptions(very well concealed) and deliberate errors in reasoning which cannot be done by the common man or the majority of the people who ostensibly “choose” their rulers. In this war of opinions we need persons like dey and malhotra who can counter the malice and hatred spread by our enemies. In this sense they are really doing a service to us indians by shaping opinions favourable to us and thus somewhat deflecting and reducing the efforts to destabilize india. These people also apply the “greek” process to criticize indians. We must not take it to heart but if we have the time, examine the wrong assumptions and mistakes, and then use the technique to our own benefit rather than castigating them. Sometimes it is better to act the fool(the stry about the man who used to choose the 1 rupee coin over the ten rupees).

    I totally agree about Germany. I suspect that they have already studied our systems and might even be integrating both the above approaches to deadly effect. We must not lag behind in acquiring the advantages of others either.

  22. May 7, 2013 at 11:40 am

  23. May 9, 2013 at 8:43 am

    Anurag reads 140 characters and concludes that Rajiv is dissing Tatas. Or that he doesnt know anything about economics.

    Let us start with a little background. Rajiv is a PhD in Physics, and then went on to have a successful professional career, including his own venture. He was successful enough to retire from corporate life in his early 40s, and has devoted the past 20 years studying how West treats East. The Guy knows a thing or two about economy and industries.

    Coming down to this tweet, my inference is that he is partially alluding to the dependence on foreign oil. With suitable government policies, using nuclear and renewable resources (solar, hydro, wind) you can produce a lot of electricity without having to resort to dirty coal.

    An electric car is also suitable to India style driving since most vehicles do not travel long distances so range is not an issue. Further unlike ICE powered cars, which waste a lot of fuel in the stop & go traffic, electric cars are a lot more efficient in such situations. They recover energy every time you brake and in fact go longer distances in stop&go traffic when compared to highway driving.

    It is not without reason that even conservative investors like Warren Buffet have taken up stakes in battery manufacturers; many see electric cars becoming popular in the 21st century as oil supply starts tapering off and a large number of the so-called third world residents moving up the economic ladder.

    Did you think about that once?

    Rajiv once tweeted that the agricultural potential in the US can be a powerful tool in helping the US is becoming the food supplier to the world and exert more influence.

    Anurag responded by his article on how Western food subsidies support corporate agriculture in the West but destroy the earning power of the masses in the developing world.

    What I still do not get is how those two are competing ideas? They are mutually orthogonal.

    The West provides subsidy to ensure that they are never dependent on anyone else for food, and farmers stay in business.

    The fact that subsidies also serves other purposes (like the price depression Anurag alluded to), do not in any way dilute the fact that there is a LOT of land in the Americas, the population density is low, and highly mechanized farming in the US is highly productive while soil conservation techniques have helped maintain the fertility of the land.

    Anurag is right in what he says, and so is Rajiv.

    But Anurag creates a conflict where none exists, or is intended.

    Do you have a plan for going from 2nd look to an acceptable hypothesis?

    Something which will be worthy of academic investigation which can challenge the Marxist-Western stranglehold on the Indian narrative? And not summarily dismissed as some “RSS mumbo-jumbo”?

    Sometimes I feel that Anurag is just jealous that Rajiv has taken the issues he raises to much deeper level of analysis. I do not think that is because Anurag is less capable, but simply because Rajiv has devoted two decades studying these issues, full-time.

    Rajiv has challenged the core narrative which threatens Dharmic civilization with his work.

    Work with him for a change, instead of wasting your energy in petty twitter battles.

  24. May 14, 2013 at 7:35 am

    so much shakti wasted on this ! – any worthless idea will meet its fate death. Lets take whats essential and leave the rest. Imbalance is seen in everything in China. Both the so called growth as well as massive environmental degradation – so aping China is not the right model for that matter any country. our problems are unique and require different solutions. At the same time we must examine all possibilities. It doesn’t matter we are 20 years late compared to other G8 as long as social inequalities are not huge. But if the so called growth causes huge social inequalities or environmental degradation then that should be avoided. JC Kumarappa’s ideas need to seriously considered.

    Our culture has room for multiple points of views to co-exist even in the same place, Saamaanidhikranyam. So all well wishers to focus all the energies on the quest for truth than nitpicking.

  25. June 3, 2014 at 5:50 am

    Very unfair. Rajiv Malhotra does not have a low opinion of Indians. How can you say something like this? Not good at all. Sure he makes mistakes. We all do. But to twist it around and say that he has so little respect for Indians is not good.

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